WP117 | How to Master Office Space, Tracking Numbers, & Hiring for a Group Practice - Live Consulting with Bill Prasad, Group Practice Owner and LPC-S
Running a group practice isn’t just a job—it’s a juggling act! From managing office space to onboarding clinicians and balancing schedules, every decision can feel like a high-stakes puzzle. In this episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Bill Prasad, a group practice owner navigating these very challenges, for a live consulting session.
I didn’t just share advice—I offered practical, real-world solutions that you can put into action right away. Want to optimize your office space with a "use it or lose it" approach? Curious how to strike the perfect balance between part-time and full-time clinicians? Wrestling with hiring splits or planning for growth? I’ve got you covered.
This episode is packed with actionable strategies to help you overcome common hurdles and build a thriving, efficient practice. I’m so excited to share these insights with you—let’s dive in!
1. Scheduling Office Space: The “Use It or Lose It” Approach
Bill’s primary concern was managing the schedule for his one-office practice shared by three clinicians. Whitney emphasized the importance of clear boundaries and expectations, particularly when dealing with contractors. Her advice? Implement block scheduling to ensure optimal use of the space.
Block Scheduling: Split the day into specific shifts, such as 8 a.m.–4 p.m. and 4 p.m.–8 p.m., and assign these blocks to clinicians. This avoids the inefficient “middle of the day” shifts that prevent full utilization of the space.
Use It or Lose It: Clinicians must use at least 75% of their allocated hours, whether for sessions, meetings, or administrative work. If they don’t, they risk losing access to the space.
Whitney highlighted the importance of prioritizing the needs of clinicians with larger caseloads while allowing flexibility for virtual sessions when office space is limited.
2. Managing Part-Time and Full-Time Clinicians
Bill plans to expand his team, but Whitney advised caution with part-time hires. While part-time clinicians can help a practice grow initially, over-reliance on them can hinder long-term profitability. Whitney suggested:
Limit Part-Time Clinicians: Keep the number of part-timers low to ensure financial sustainability.
Encourage Full-Time Work: Focus on hiring clinicians who are committed to building a full-time caseload within your practice, as this fosters both financial growth and team consistency.
3. Tracking Performance Without Creating Competition
Bill expressed interest in creating a spreadsheet to track clinician performance, including client hours and caseload goals. Whitney supported the idea of accountability but cautioned against fostering unhealthy competition among therapists.
Track Individually: Keep performance metrics private and share them during one-on-one meetings with clinicians.
Focus on Retention: Discuss client retention rates and provide tailored feedback to help therapists grow their caseloads.
Consistency is Key: Regularly address performance metrics in meetings to emphasize their importance without overwhelming clinicians.
4. Hiring Challenges: Negotiating Splits and Insurance Paneling
Hiring clinicians who meet insurance panel requirements, such as being paneled with Medicare or major insurers like Blue Cross Blue Shield, can be tough—especially when candidates demand high revenue splits. Whitney acknowledged this challenge and advised:
Set Clear Expectations: While high splits may attract top talent, they can also strain practice finances. Set a sustainable percentage split that aligns with your business goals.
Highlight Non-Monetary Benefits: Emphasize the value your practice provides, such as administrative support, marketing, and a collaborative team culture, to attract clinicians without overextending financially.
5. Preparing for Growth
As Bill’s practice expands, Whitney encouraged him to think creatively about office space. She shared her own experience of renting nearby conference rooms for overflow sessions and emphasized the importance of being proactive about future needs.
Key Takeaways for Group Practice Owners
Whitney’s live consulting session with Bill offered practical advice that any group practice owner can use:
Create structured scheduling systems to maximize office space utilization.
Be strategic with part-time hires and prioritize full-time growth.
Track performance privately and provide regular feedback.
Balance clinician demands with financial sustainability.
Plan for future expansion without overcommitting resources.
By implementing these strategies, group practice owners can build a thriving, efficient practice while fostering a positive and productive environment for their clinicians.
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[00:01:34] Jingle: Where she grows your practice, she don't play. She does business with a twist of faith. It's Whitney Owens and the Wise Practice Podcast. Whitney Owens and the Wise Practice
[00:01:49] Whitney Owens: Podcast.
Hey, hey friends. Welcome back to the Wise Practice Podcast. Today we have episode 117. And we are doing some live consulting in the month of January. I think live consulting is so much fun. Not only do I get to help the people while we're on the call, but you guys get to hear what consulting is. You get to hear from real life practice owners that are dealing with lots of questions and probably some of your questions too.
So Bill is. First of all, he's got a cool story, so make sure that you listen to the whole episode so you can hear his backstory before he became a therapist, because it's pretty fun. And he asks tons of questions for those of you that are kind of in the beginning stages of starting a practice, really starting a group practice.
We talk about tracking numbers, we talk about office space, which is a big question I get of where should we go for office space, how much do we need. And then we also talk about hiring for a group practice. So I feel like we cover a lot of the nuts and bolts of when your caseload gets full and you're trying to decide next steps, how do you move forward with hiring?
How do you know what's going on in your business and how do you grow from here? So looking forward to sharing that with you. We also are going to talk about the WISe practice membership community. So for those of you who are not familiar, and I want to make a distinction here, We have a couple of different opportunities to get involved in wise practice.
I do run some Facebook groups. We have two Facebook groups called wise practice community as well as christian counselors and private practice So both of those groups are opportunities free for you to connect with other christian practice owners So if you're kind of feeling lonely, make sure that you make those connections And then if you're looking for kind of a more intimate setting coursework paperwork for your practice that you can use As well as accountability groups where you can connect with other practice centers on a regular basis.
Find that accountability that you're looking for. I want you to consider joining the WISe practice membership community. So for only 89 a month, we meet every week on Zoom. It's Wednesdays at 1 o'clock Eastern. If you can't meet with us, then everything is recorded so that you can go back and watch those episodes or watch those courses and learn.
We have experts in the field that come in, so we have experts from virtual assistant companies, SEO companies, Google ad companies, all kinds of places. to be able to talk to you about growing your practice. I personally teach every month on a different aspect within growing your practice. We have Q& A so you can bring your questions in, open office hours, and then we do work sessions as well.
Plus, MyWisePractice members get all the best deals within MyWisePractice. So discounts on the summit, discounts on consulting, discounts on mastermind groups. All of it. So that's only 89 a month, y'all. That's less than a client once a month. Look, I don't want anyone paying for something they don't love.
So if you get in there, And you're like the same for me. It is totally fine. Send me an email. Let me know. I'm going to ask you why so that we can improve this community, but I think that you'll find it well worth the 89 a month. So we are opening the doors for that community here at the end of January.
You can head to wisepracticeconsulting. com backslash memberships to get more information and learn more about that. So the doors are going to open on January 29th for three days only. And we only open it twice a year, so make sure that you are on the email list. If you're not already, you can head to the website and grab the PDF on connecting, marketing and connecting with churches to get on the email list, or just mark your calendar for Wednesday the 29th.
Head to the website, join the membership community. I can't wait. To meet with you, we are going to have a welcoming meeting. That's going to be the following week. So that's when we'll all get on together. All the new cohort members for cohort 5 and we'll get to know each other and talk about the community.
So I am excited. I'm going to be honest. The membership community is my favorite part of WISePractice. It's such a special group and then we get together for the summit and it's incredible. So please make sure that you mark your calendar for January 29th through the 31st. If you have questions or want to know more, shoot me an email at Whitney at WISePracticeBuilding.
com. Okay, let's jump into the episode with Bill Prasad on office space, tracking numbers, and hiring for your group practice. WISePractice. com
Today on the last practice podcast, I have Bill Prasad, who is a licensed professional counselor and licensed chemical dependency counselor who operates a Houston based private practice, specializing in trauma addiction and leadership coaching. He's worked as a corporate trainer and leader of facilitated discussions, presenting to companies worldwide, the military and government entities.
Thank you so much for coming on the show today.
[00:06:41] Bill Prasad: Hey, it's great to be here, Whitney.
[00:06:43] Whitney Owens: Oh, thank you. Well, why don't you first share a little bit about kind of yourself, your background, and then we'll jump into your question for today.
[00:06:50] Bill Prasad: Sure. Mental health, Whitney, is actually my second career. My first career was as a journalist.
So I spent about 15 years working in the newspaper world, and then I went on to radio, and then I went into law. Local television working in cities all over the country and then toward the end of my career, the last five years from 2000 to 2005, I worked as a national correspondent working out of Washington, D.
C. for CNN and Fox News. And got to a point in that career where I thought I had pretty much done everything I wanted to do. And I'll never forget standing on the lawn, we called it Pebble Beach in front of the White House. And thinking, okay, I'm in my 40s, I've done more than I ever thought I'd do in, in journalism.
What do I do now? So, I looked at the law, and I looked at mental health, and decided to test drive graduate school for a semester in psychology, and it seemed to come together right away, and here I am now. I've been in the world of mental health for about 15 years.
[00:08:00] Whitney Owens: Wow. Oh my gosh. I'm so glad you shared that story.
Thank you.
[00:08:04] Bill Prasad: You're welcome.
[00:08:05] Whitney Owens: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And now you're in Houston. So tell me a little bit about your current practice and I believe you have some therapists that work there, correct?
[00:08:14] Bill Prasad: That's right. I've been a solo practitioner all of my career until The last three months where I decided I was going to develop a group practice, a wise practice has been absolutely essential in helping me understand how to build a group practice.
So I've hired one clinician and then last week I hired a second clinician and then I also have a third clinician who helps me run groups.
[00:08:44] Whitney Owens: Congratulations!
[00:08:46] Bill Prasad: Thank you.
[00:08:47] Whitney Owens: Wonderful. Wonderful. So what is your question for today?
[00:08:52] Bill Prasad: Well, right now we have two clinicians working part time and another clinician who uses the office one evening a week.
We have one office and we have all of these people, including me. So it'd be three clinicians and the question becomes, How do we set up a schedule so that people will have access to the office? Sometimes they're in the office and they want to see someone and then maybe the next hour it's virtual. Next hour after that it's in person.
And so what's the best way to try to put together a schedule for all of these people?
[00:09:32] Whitney Owens: Good question. Okay, are they W2s or 1099s?
[00:09:37] Bill Prasad: They are all contractors.
[00:09:40] Whitney Owens: Okay, great. So I do think that that can make it a little different. The reason I ask that is if you have a W 2, it's easier to say, hey, I need you to work these hours and see these clients, right?
Because they're your employee. With contractors, you still can let them know, hey, this is when the office is available, but they would use it however they see fit, right, to see the types of clients that they want to work with. So, I would just create a schedule and let them know this is when it's available to you, and that's when it's available to you.
[00:10:12] Bill Prasad: Right. So we leave it completely wide open?
[00:10:15] Whitney Owens: Well, it would be an essence of how many, you know, if they're seeing however many clients a week, like, hey, here's the times that I'm going to make the office available for you to use because it's your office. You, you have hired them to come in and use the office when you're not there.
So I would first look at when you could use it.
[00:10:36] Bill Prasad: Right. So I, I am in the office. Every Thursday from 12 until about 8pm, and then we run another group on a Wednesday night from 6 to 7. 30. Other than that, the office is empty.
[00:10:57] Whitney Owens: Great! And so I would go with the person that sees the most clients.
[00:11:04] Bill Prasad: Okay. So right now I hired, I hired one therapist a month ago and she's seeing a couple of people.
The second person I hired, I have, I've just finished onboarding him. So he's not seeing anyone yet that are you saying that she should get the first choice as to what she wants is her hours?
[00:11:26] Whitney Owens: Yeah, I would sit down with her and say, how many clients do you want to see a week? And then look at giving her office space to see that number of clients.
[00:11:35] Bill Prasad: Now, what if for a while she's not seeing anyone and the office is just empty, then what do I do?
[00:11:44] Whitney Owens: Well, then I guess it's empty. Unless you've got another therapist that says, I want that office space and they're filling up the caseload, right? I mean, if, if therapist number two, say therapist number one, maybe sell five clients a week and has been seeing five clients a week for three months.
And then you got therapist number two who takes on two new clients every single week. Well, you naturally would give more office space to the one that's using it. So I would let them all know, hey, here's what your space is. If you don't use it, you're going to lose it. Does that make sense?
[00:12:17] Bill Prasad: Yeah, so use it or lose it.
So how do you define losing it?
[00:12:24] Whitney Owens: You get to decide that. I can tell you how I define it.
[00:12:28] Bill Prasad: Please.
[00:12:30] Whitney Owens: All my therapists are required to use at least 75 percent of their office space or they lose it. Now, for me, 75 percent of your office space includes seeing clients, but it also includes attending staff meetings, meetings.
or going to supervision. So if they have an eight hour schedule, an eight hour, we call them blocks, we have block scheduling. If they have an eight hour block, they must use at least six of the eight hours for clinical or wise, I mean, or water's edge work.
[00:13:02] Bill Prasad: Okay, so if I use that model, the therapist who work is working for me right now, she would carve out some times and days.
The new therapist. Once he's on board, it would carve out some more time. Now I'm going to add a third therapist in the next couple of months. And so what if that third therapist wants additional time and these folks are using a lot of the calendar. Are you saying that at that point, I should look at whether they are actually using it and reduce their access?
[00:13:36] Whitney Owens: Yes. And another thing to be thinking about as you really need to max the space is I, I don't let therapists do middle of the day shifts. So most therapists want to do 10 to 6, right? They don't want to get there early and they don't want to stay late. Well, guess what? It's hard to schedule another therapist to work in that same office if they can only go from 8 in the morning to 10 in the morning or from 6 at night to 8 at night.
So that's another reason the block schedule has been so helpful. Is hey you either and you could consider doing this if you'd like you either take the Eight to four shift or the four to eight shift making some sense
[00:14:20] Bill Prasad: Yes, it is
[00:14:21] Whitney Owens: that took us a while to get to that point but
[00:14:24] Bill Prasad: Eight to four or four to eight
[00:14:27] Whitney Owens: Or maybe they do eight to twelve and someone else does twelve to eight like you do And I would remind them virtual is always an option If you have more clients you want to see and you don't have the office space You know, you're welcome to see them from home virtually You See who wants it more, right?
People that really are hungry for clients, they'll show you that they're hungry for clients. But I would say another thing to be really careful about is you don't want a bunch of part time therapists. It's okay at the very beginning, but if you get two years from now and you've got five therapists that are only seeing 10 clients a week, you're not going to make any more money than you made as a solo practicing and you're going to be burned out.
[00:15:12] Bill Prasad: All right. So where would I cap the number of part time people?
[00:15:20] Whitney Owens: Yeah, I mean, I would make it as small as possible. And again, when you're growing and you're starting out, you kind of have to take part time people because you're still learning how to, like, grow their caseload and all that kind of stuff. But if we get two years down the road and you're still in that place, you're going to be having a difficult time and your practice isn't going to have profit.
[00:15:43] Bill Prasad: Okay.
[00:15:43] Whitney Owens: Does that make sense? Well, it
[00:15:44] Bill Prasad: sounds like I add one more person and then I'm there
[00:15:48] Jingle: as far
[00:15:48] Bill Prasad: as the three part time people. One of the individuals is Thinking about going full time and the other therapist, his initial plan is to start part time, but he is probably going to be focused on going full time soon.
So both of them could turn into full time people.
[00:16:10] Whitney Owens: Yeah, I have, I've just learned over the years for, for me and with coaching people that hiring people who have other jobs, usually they make that other job than priority. Because the other job is what brings them the income. So then our practice always ends up being second.
And I need people working for me that take this to be a priority because I have clients they need to work with. So I'm curious in your office location. Are you in like a building with other offices in it?
[00:16:41] Bill Prasad: Yes.
[00:16:42] Whitney Owens: Okay, is there because when I did that, when I had my first practice, it was like that. And we actually also had some rooms that we could rent out.
They were like conference rooms. Do they have something like that?
[00:16:55] Bill Prasad: There are two vacant offices on my floor that are empty. The psychiatrist who used to take those offices is trying to rent them, but I've already talked to her about between now and then, if I have overflow or an accidental double booking, can we use your office?
And she is open to that.
[00:17:17] Whitney Owens: Oh, great, good. Yeah, that's the next thing I'd be looking at, is how to expand without having to leave your current space. Doesn't sound like you need to do that yet, but you might in the coming months. But when I was in one of those spaces, that's what we did. Whenever there was a double booking, um, we would rent out the conference room and I would do sessions in the conference room as a backup.
[00:17:39] Bill Prasad: Okay.
[00:17:40] Whitney Owens: Yeah.
[00:17:42] Bill Prasad: You ready to take on another problem?
[00:17:44] Whitney Owens: Yes, but how do you feel about your scheduling issues? That worked out for you?
[00:17:48] Bill Prasad: Yeah, you've given me plenty to think about and I'm sure I can work it out based on your instructions.
[00:17:55] Whitney Owens: Oh, great. Yeah. And if you go into WISePractice, the WISePractice community, my block scheduling policy is in there.
[00:18:03] Bill Prasad: Really? Okay, great.
[00:18:05] Whitney Owens: I'm ready when you're ready for the next one, though.
[00:18:08] Bill Prasad: Okay, so I wanted to come up with some kind of spreadsheet that would show. How we're doing, how each therapist is doing in reference to patient hours weekly, and then to also show on that sheet, what their deadline is to reach a certain number, and what that number is and where they're, how they're doing now.
I wanted to put that together. The goal would be, To increase accountability to give people a sense of how are we doing as a practice and maybe inspire a little competition. What do you think of that idea?
[00:18:49] Whitney Owens: I am going to mull over it when we're done with the podcast episode. I'll say that my initial thoughts are.
I don't know how well therapists will do with competition. Some of my therapists, well, I have one therapist who's like all about it. He used to be in sales, you know? So he always wants to be at the top of his game and see the most clients, but it took us a really long time to get him out of that mindset because it wasn't healthy for him, right?
He was caring too much about his numbers and what we thought about him and less about. You know, taking care of himself, which we know therapists can have burnout. So it's kind of a fine line between we want them to feel a sense of importance and urgency and seeing clients. We also don't want to burn them out.
I think we also want to make sure that we're not making people feel bad for not having a full caseload yet. Right. Cause that's kind of our responsibility to give them that full caseload. I definitely think you need to track numbers. I think you definitely need to have a place where you're moving them towards as far as the number of clients you anticipate and retention, you know, like, if basically if we bring you on, we expect you to retain this percentage of clients for this long, but I probably wouldn't share that with everyone.
I'd probably just share it with the specific therapist.
[00:20:07] Bill Prasad: Okay, so maybe an individual type of, uh, spreadsheet.
[00:20:12] Whitney Owens: Well, yeah, or, or it's your spreadsheet and you track everything and then you meet one on one with your team members maybe once a month to review their numbers and provide them some training and feedback on how to raise their numbers.
I learned in my coaching early on, the thing that you talk about is the most important thing in your practice. So I think a lot of times when I was newer as a group practice center, I'd be nervous about something. So I wouldn't talk about it very much. And as I've grown, I've realized, wait, no, that's the very thing I need to be talking about all the time if it's something I want to change.
So if you want people to be better at keeping their clients, you need to be talking about client numbers all the time with them. In meeting with them and discussing that.
[00:20:54] Bill Prasad: Okay. We have time for one more.
[00:20:57] Whitney Owens: Yeah.
[00:20:59] Bill Prasad: All right. I'm about to hire my 3rd therapist. I would like to hire a therapist who can be paneled with Medicare and United Healthcare and Blue Cross Blue Shield currently in the state of Texas.
Aetna and Cigna will allow will reimburse. For a licensed professional counselor associate, you've got to be a fully independent LPC or an LCSW in order to be paneled with Medicare, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, um, or United healthcare. When I entertain applicants who are LCSWs or LPCs, at times they're Their split percentage that they are asking for is way on the high end, 70 to an 80 percent split.
And I'm having trouble finding someone who doesn't want to start at the top or beyond. You
[00:22:08] Whitney Owens: can, you can join the other practice centers that feel the same way. It's hard. That's a very common concern.
[00:22:15] Bill Prasad: What else can I offer them?
[00:22:17] Whitney Owens: Yeah. So the first thing I want to tell you is don't give them what they want.
Because there's no reason to have a group practice if you do. And I have had so many people come back to me and say, no Whitney, I'm not going to get a good person if I don't do a 70 percent split. And I'm like, fine, go to your, go to your accountant and let them run the numbers. 70 percent split. So don't ever go over 60.
How, what can you do about it? Well, I say go to the W 2 model because you won't have therapists asking for that split like that. You're just saying, this is what you're going to make. And that's it. Then it's just a different mindset. And I also will admit that, you know, when you're scheduling stuff, 1099 contractors do tend to view their positions as contract work.
I mean, that's what it is. So they work for multiple agencies and multiple practices and they work part time at all of them. W 2s tend to work at one place and take on more clients. So it's just kind of a different way. And then you can provide a lot of other things for them besides just money. The contractor model is, it's a very money based, you come to this thing, I pay you this amount, that's it.
You know, it's not as. Package oriented. That makes sense. Now, there's other things you could throw in there. Like, if you're set on the 1099 model, because that's what you're doing, like, because you don't want to be as involved in the work they're doing, things like that. There's some other things that you could say, like, here's the office space that I have furnished for you.
Or maybe you do some trainings with them at no cost, or maybe you do as a team. You know, I think there's some other things you could say, Hey, we do case consultations once a week or once a month that you're welcome to come to those, you know, other things that you could show, Hey, this is why it's better to be a 1099 than go start your own practice.
But I do think that 1099 are going to want a very high percentage because that's kind of the way the model is.
[00:24:19] Bill Prasad: I'm finding that therapists don't understand that and their expectation when they come in. For example, I. I interviewed and made an offer to an LCSW where I offered her a 60 percent split, which would go to 65 percent if she met a certain benchmark, she would have access to the office, she would have either low cost or free CEUs.
And all her patients would have access to covered parking and she would have a billing service and she would have a patient coordinator and she came back and said, Nope, I want 70 or 75 out of the gate to start and she didn't seem to understand that. No, I'm not going to do that for a number of reasons.
[00:25:13] Whitney Owens: Yeah, well, good for you sticking your guns, sticking to that, and she might end up coming back around. You're offering them a lot. So yeah, we'll see if she finds it somewhere else or not, and if she does, That practice probably isn't making any profit and probably struggling. Yeah. So I, you know, a lot of people wonder what else do I need to offer to get people?
I say, find what works best for you as a business owner. Know that you're offering something great. Yeah. And stick with it. Not going to be the best fit for everybody.
[00:25:47] Bill Prasad: You know, I'm starting to learn that hiring someone is like buying a house. Don't fall in love with your choice. Yeah,
[00:25:54] Whitney Owens: that's right to
[00:25:56] Bill Prasad: walk away.
[00:25:58] Whitney Owens: That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, I always say it's like dating
[00:26:04] Bill Prasad: with the therapist that I have on board. I'm teaching them. I go, I plan to teach them community marketing. What do you think is the most important part? Of community marketing,
[00:26:16] Whitney Owens: going to the place where your idle client hangs out, people just kind of go to places.
I would specifically be looking for your idle client when you're doing that. Yeah. Well, great. Well, we covered a lot of good ground today. A lot of questions. I think a lot of practice owners have. So I appreciate you bring this to the table. And before we kind of wrap up here. Could you share just a minute or two about why you're involved in the last practice membership community?
[00:26:42] Bill Prasad: Of course, there wasn't much knowledge on my end in reference to understanding the intricacies of building a group practice, we get nothing in graduate school that helps us understand. All of those things that are vital elements of being successful. So the wise practice community has filled in many, many of those gaps with the individual coaching that I'm getting.
The coach that I have, Amy, is very. receptive to my needs. Also, the summit recently held was very helpful. And then the discussion groups and the access to documents all have been phenomenal in helping me understand how to build a group practice.
[00:27:28] Whitney Owens: Well, thank you, Bill. We appreciate you being a part of the community and it was great to be able to meet you in person just a few weeks ago at the summit.
Um, now you have a special offer that you have for, um, listeners today, a training that you have, is that right?
[00:27:42] Bill Prasad: Of course, uh, we're offering pro bono trainings to clinicians that can focus on trauma. There's another training we're offering as far as group psychotherapy, how to build group psychotherapy into your practice.
post pandemic. And then there's a third training that we're offering that takes a look at the intersection between religion and psychology and actually takes the bible and the DSM and asks the question, well, what do they both say about mental illness?
[00:28:14] Whitney Owens: Hmm. Oh, that's so, so important. Okay. So if someone's interested in one of those trainings, how do they get access to it?
[00:28:22] Bill Prasad: The best way would be to reach out to me, uh, either via phone or email.
[00:28:28] Whitney Owens: All right, wonderful.
[00:28:29] Bill Prasad: And that phone number 281 948 3333.
[00:28:34] Whitney Owens: Great, great. And then we've got your website and your email also in the show notes if someone wants to get in touch with you. And I appreciate you taking the time to be on the show today.
[00:28:42] Bill Prasad: Thanks, Whitney. Helpful as usual. Thank you.
[00:28:45] Whitney Owens: Thank you.
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